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Post by johnnyshaker on Nov 13, 2006 13:39:24 GMT 1
Why is he called Fred on the website? I'm one of his mates and just wondered why?
Also, can anyone on here who watches the reserves tell me how he's playing and how funny his red card was when he was backup goalie?
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Post by Supporter on Nov 15, 2006 22:37:43 GMT 1
Nice lad but he's not a good footballer,theres certainly better players at the club!But one things for sure he'll always be in the team as hes mates with the reserve managment as is the other lad they brought in,rubbish!!Ive watched several reserve games this year and all they seem to do is play the long ball,what happened to the reserves of old who were well known for there attractive football they play,not this long ball game which seems to frustrate several of the regular reserve boys who've been in the side several seasons.Come on the management sort it out before you loose the lads to another local club down the road!your not at st andrews now!!
up the magpies!
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Post by Roger on Nov 20, 2006 10:47:36 GMT 1
I watched the reserves on saturday against hindringham and thought they were awful,what has happened to them over the last couple of years?They used to play attractive football which was a joy to watch,all they do now is play the long ball and it always comes straight back and puts the defenders under pressure all the time missing the midfield out completely!The to new lads Cunningham and Appleton arent good enough to be in the side,if there better than the younger lads we have at the club then it doesnt say much about the youth set up here,they are rubbish!Did hear that they are good mates with the 2 managers so i guess there names are the 1st on the team sheet every week how ever they perform!
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Post by Baffled on Nov 20, 2006 20:45:02 GMT 1
Wow, with people like Roger (replied 20th Nov) and Supporter (replied 15th Nov, I would use that term loosely) who needs enemies with so called supporters like you two!! I would suggest that if you are that appalled, you stay at home on a Saturday afternoon and use your time more constructively, as opposed to procrastinating over a game of football. At the end of the day it is meant to be about enjoyment, as at this level, players are not earning £20,000 per week.
For so called supporters like yourselves, perhaps you should look at the bigger picture. In seasons gone by the reserves have successfully worked their way through the lower divisions winning games, so of course you see wins and equate that to attractive flowing football. Do you really think Anglian Combination Division 3/4 etc has teams playing ‘attractive’ football? No disrespect to any players at that level or who have played at level (I don’t think it’s right to slate people, unless you two are both ex premiership footballers of course?) but if they could play fantastic ‘attractive’ Football, they would be playing at a far higher level, do you not agree?
Last season the reserves avoided relegation right at the death, should things have stayed the same for this season or changes made? I wonder, were you both slating the team and new signings when the reserves sat top of the league, 9 games unbeaten, if you were and could foresee the last 3 loses, then perhaps you two should form a joint management team.
As for the two new signings, well Cunningham may not have the greatest ability in the world, (if he did he would not be at this level) but he works tirelessly and gives 100%, which surely is what it is all about. Last season this effort may have been lacking? Appleton, picked up an injury (2 cracked ribs, having been to hospital) in the first minute on Saturday, but still continued to play into the second half, which shows a level of commitment to the side, as opposed to simply giving in and going off, although that may have been the sensible thing to do, rather than stay on the pitch and play poorly.
Well that’s all, I hope we may be able to all have a sensible discussion on the areas I have addressed.
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Post by blackandwhite on Nov 20, 2006 21:33:21 GMT 1
I would like to congratulate the Baffled Guest on his excellent posting. It is refreshing to read some constructive comments rather than some of the rubbish that is posted. Keep it up Baffled.
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Post by Roger on Nov 20, 2006 22:33:47 GMT 1
Guessing your one of the managment team as your still sticking up for your 2 mates!At the end of the day there is better players at the club so sort it out mate as they simply are NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!Sort your language out to when your on the side lines,its out of order and not necessary!Avoir x
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Post by Baffled supporter of the team on Nov 20, 2006 23:28:13 GMT 1
Roger,
That is hardly a constructive reply, it has obviously touched a nerve, with you being so defensive and bordering on aggressive.
You have not responded to any of the points raised and your thoughts on these and how things can be improved would be interesting see.
Surely we all want the same goal and that is promotion, correct me if I am wrong?
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Post by blackandwhite on Nov 20, 2006 23:43:44 GMT 1
Well Roger you are so wrong! I havent a clue who the management team are. I just appreciate what the lads who turn out to play on a Saturday are trying to do. They can only play to the best of their ability. The 1st team have had a number of injuries and suspensions in the last month and that has meant the best of the reserves turning out for the 1st team. Thats what reserves are for. The reserves performance has consequently suffered. I agree that we want the reserves to get promotion as that will enable thewm to perform at a higher level and so benefit the Club as a whole. Stop kncking the lads who are trying and get behind them. Supporters are supposed to support!
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Post by Baffled Supporter of the team on Nov 20, 2006 23:51:40 GMT 1
BlackandWhite, you speak common sence!
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Post by Roger chilled on Nov 21, 2006 18:05:20 GMT 1
At the end of the day they are not good enough,simple as that!The football being played is of an A team standard,see better performances last year when the team were struggling!Did hear you guys messed st andrews up over the years you were there,dont do it to our reserve side.As far as im concerned your both not up to the job,so there!Avoir x x x
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Post by Baffled supporter of the team on Nov 21, 2006 19:51:10 GMT 1
Roger
I thought the name would help you, I am not the management team! There is no point telling me to 'sort it out'
I am interested in your views as to how things could be improved, what system you would play and what players?
When you say they are not good enough, do you mean the players, performances, managers etc?
You say don't mess up 'our' Reserve side, so you obviously do want the team to do well as you see yourself as part of it or the club?
Therefore why can't you be constructive and offer advice, suggestions etc as to how things can be improved, to move forward, rather than referring back to the past, which in recent times has not been so good and stamping your feet saying 'so there!'
Also Roger, you hear alot, ever considerd moving into journalism?
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Post by Stiffs Fan on Nov 21, 2006 19:52:01 GMT 1
The comment about the impact of injuries and suspensions in the first team coinciding with the dip in form with the reserves is pertinent. Macnab-Grieve had been doing very well for the reserves - now warming the bench with the first team. Perhaps a question should be...does the first team take 5 subs if it weakens the reserves to the point of losing top spot and dropping off the pace in the division?
Of course the first team is important, but if the reserves are to be promoted the managers need to be able to pick strong teams and the first team manager needs to suport this as much as possible.
With this in mind it seems very harsh to blame individual players.
As for the comment on the youth set-up! You can't be serious. Tutle, Watts, Beaumont, Coupe, Hunt are all players form the U16s/U18s that have progressed to the reserves/ first team.
My only disappintment is the lack of match reports. Regardless of the results I enjoyed reading the notes about reserve team games.
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Post by Baffled supporter of the team on Nov 21, 2006 20:23:21 GMT 1
Thank God there are people like you stiffs fan, who clearly understands football and the workings of a club. As opposed to others who merely keeping posting meaningless insults and digs at individuals, which achieves nothing.
I agree with your comment about the 5 subs, unless the lads on the bench play, they lose match fitness, sharpness etc and then come back to the reserves needing the games again.
As the reply posted yesterday by blackandwhite said, it is important for the club as a whole that the reserves get into the premier division as it bridges the gap in standard further between the first team and reserves. This can only be a good thing, but it needs everybody pulling together in the same direction, regardless of any personal views or grievances.
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Post by johnnyshaker on Nov 23, 2006 13:08:47 GMT 1
Well you folk on here dont half take it seriously. Thought this was Manchester United's message board I was reading for a minute. I only asked how my mate was playing. I wasn't expecting posts ripping him, the team and management to pieces. If you all think there that crap why bother going to watch them, its only amateur football at the end of the day no the premiership. Spend your time watching the first team or some kids team. And finally, can someone update the website for once, his name aint Fred! ;D
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Post by Bossman on Nov 23, 2006 20:27:54 GMT 1
It just goes to show that the true Dereham fans do take their football serious. They all want Dereham Town FC to succeed at all levels. It is refreshing to see serious debate at last. We all think we know what is best for the teams but it is the manager who has to pick the team and carry the can for the results. They will not get it right all of the time. Ask Alex ferguson after the Celtic match this week !!
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Post by MAD BRI on Dec 29, 2006 17:26:37 GMT 1
i see sum of yous dont like mr cunninham!! WHY?? hard workin,strong,smart player!!
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Post by Bemused Fan on Dec 30, 2006 0:31:15 GMT 1
I don't understand the criticism as I have seen Cunningham play in most matches this season, and on every occasion he didn't seem to be the worst player wearing black and white!! As new signings come to the club it will take them a while to settle in, this is proved by the fact he was the best player on the park in last weeks visit to Wymondham!!! I believe he scored 10+ goals from midfield last season, in the premier, so hopefully he can find his for again and help a team of very good young players to gain promotion!!! So lets get behind everyone involved at the club!!
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Post by Havin a laugh on Dec 30, 2006 10:08:27 GMT 1
Best player on the park..............My behind!!What game were you watching mate?
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Post by Bemused Fan on Dec 30, 2006 22:27:58 GMT 1
Glad to see his goalscoring form is returning!!! Shame some people dont watch the game rather than the ball!!!
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Post by Reserve Spectator on Feb 24, 2007 0:16:37 GMT 1
I saw the reserves play last week and it was another great win.
I am a little concerned about the pitch though, as I feel there may be a problem with quicksand in certain areas.
This was very noticeable, when in the second half a ball was put through, from left to the right (clubhouse side) and Fred Cunningham chased it, I think? Although, he slowed up dramatically and almost came to a stand still, thus he must have hit a patch of the quicksand.
I am not sure if anything can be done about this???
Having said that, it was also very noticeable that young Frederick does seem to be carrying a little extra timber of late, which may well be down to, too much Haggis, Iron Bru and the odd Tennants. ;D
It could well be that Fred Cunningham's recently inflated physique was to blame and merely created the illusion of quicksand. If this was so, my apologies to the ground staff.
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